TOWN OF
STODDARD
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD October 2, 2007
MEETING CONVENED AT 7:00 PM
Members attending included:
Terry McMahon, George Davenport, Dale Smith, Louis GrandPreÕ, George Preston
and Dennis Marquis. Excused was
Casey Hayes as he called the secretary to notify the board he could not
attend. With Mr. HayesÕ absence,
Terry McMahon assumed the chair and ran the meeting.
Correspondence: Resignation letter from Dennis Marquis; letter from
Beverly Gay, Arlene DiCourcia and Harry Power calling for George Davenport to
step down from the board; notice from Selectmen re: Joint Meeting on Junkyards; Letter from Amy Rokoszak
indicating desire to join the board; email from George Preston re: Marquis resignation; memorandum from NH
Office of Energy and Planning with a copy of the new State Capital Improvements
Program – Chapter VI; email from Dennis Marquis withdrawing his
resignation and another email from George Preston praising the move.
Minutes of previous meeting:
George Davenport moved and Dale Smith seconded to accept the minutes of the
September 4, 2007 meeting as presented, the board approved.
Public rudimentary
questions:
Mark Hodgson (100 West Shore
Circle – off Whitney Road) presented a plat and explained that he would
like to purchase approximately ¼ of an acre from Gerry Forest for the
purpose of constructing a garage.
Mr. Forest owns 1.6 acres in the Lake Side District, which requires
1-acre minimum. The piece Mr.
Hodgson would like to purchase is across from his present lot. The board told him he would have to
merge the piece he plans to purchase with his present lot, as it would not have
enough area for it to stand-alone.
The board asked if there is 75Õ of frontage on the proposed lot. Mr. Hodgson said there is at least 75Õ.
The board saw no problem with
the plan as presented but told him that the landÕs owner would have to apply
for the subdivision. Mr. Hodgson
said he would proceed to work with Mr. Forest and a surveyor for formal
presentation to the board at a future meeting.
Barbara Philbrick indicated an interest to meet with the board but was not
present.
Mike Oldershaw indicated an
interest in serving the board as an alternate but was late attending the
meeting. He will write a letter of
intent to the board for next monthÕs meeting.
General business: The letter
from Beverly Gay, Harry Power and Arlene DiCourcia was read and George
Davenport asked for time to study the letter, pointing out that they had not
sent him a copy. The Chairman handed
over the letter for GeorgeÕs benefit.
Dale Smith reported that he
had contacted the boardÕs attorney about the letter and had sent him a
copy. The attorney stated that RSA
671:13 says a board can hand the issue over to the Selectmen but his opinion is
that the altercation happened after the Planning Board meeting was adjourned
and there is no need to act upon the letterÕs demands.
Terry McMahon said that
George Davenport is an effective member of the board and has brought valuable
information to it. He wants to understand
what happened before he takes further action.
Beverly Gay explained that
she had no disagreement with what George Davenport said and could not
understand what upset him to the point of screaming at her.
George Davenport said he
acted after the meeting was closed and did not invade her space or curse at
her. He maintained he had the
right to express his opinion as a member of the public at large. He also called a point of order: that
the altercation happened after the meeting was adjourned.
Terry McMahon suggested that
the matter be dropped.
Arlene DiCourcia said George
Davenport was completely out of order.
Gerald Gay said a public
servant is a public servant at all times and George Davenport owes the people
involved an apology.
Beverly Gay said she wants an
apology.
Terry McMahon asked George
Davenport if felt he owed her an apology?
George Davenport said he does
not feel the need to apologize. He
felt it is his right to state his opinion.
George Preston said George
DavenportÕs style leaves him wanting but he also makes him think.
He stated that he is
disappointed that no apology was forthcoming.
Terry McMahon asked if the
board could have bygones be bygones?
No conclusion was reached.
The Junk Yard issue was
addressed. George Davenport
reported on the Joint Meeting that he attended on September 17, 2007. He reported that there was a lot of
discussion between the Selectmen and the Planning Board and he came away with
the impression that the Planning Board would be charged with crafting an
ordinance to present to the Town Meeting.
George Preston said that the
State and TownÕs Counsel have made it known that the land owner and the town
(can not plead ignorance) have a liability for the junk accumulation and the
environmental consequences there of.
George Davenport suggested
the Planning Board appoint a subcommittee, much as the CIP subcommittee, to
create a draft ordinance for the full board to consider.
Terry McMahon said it is
crucial to obtain public comments and input toward what should be included in
the ordinance. He made it clear
that what comments the Public has, the sub-committee will consider if the
comments are in the context of the responsibility for the Town Ordinance.
George Davenport would like
the subcommittee to be formed. He
recommended that representatives from the Conservation Commission, Zoning Board
of Adjustment, Selectmen and the Public make up the committee.
George Preston reported that
the Selectmen have a Junk Yard License draft, which they plan to consider
adopting next Monday (10-8-2007).
He asked if the town needs a regulation or if they can fall back to the
State Regulations and if that would be suffice. He wants to consult the BoardÕs attorney to learn if the
Town will need regulations.
Dale Smith asked which lawyer
board should consult – the SelectmenÕs or the Planning Board.
George Preston said both.
Dale Smith agreed that the
board needs a subcommittee to handle the issue.
Terry McMahon asked if there
were enough questions raised to form a guideline for the board to pose to its
attorney.
George Davenport stated that
if laws are adopted someone needs to enforce them.
George Preston said if we
need an ordinance it will need to be enforced.
Louis GrandPreÕ said Chet
Pratt was working with the SelectmenÕs counsel to put together the Junk Yard
License. He suggested that the
board bounce the questions off the State.
Dennis Marquis said he wasnÕt
sure it was a wiser idea to bounce questions off the State.
Louis GrandPreÕ said the
State is telling the town if we have a license, then that is all the town has
to do.
Chet Pratt (upon noting he is
not a lawyer) said his opinion was that the town can piggyback off the State
Regulations.
George Davenport suggested
the board generate a letter to the boardÕs attorney asking for an opinion
before proceeding with the work of drafting an ordinance.
Chet Pratt said he agreed
with George Davenport. He also
noted that if the licensing process is instituted and there is no enforcement
is forthcoming, it would be a waste of time to draw up an ordinance.
George Davenport reported
that he has read the material provided at the joint meeting and he is more
unsettled than before he started.
George Preston said time is
of the essence as there have been town people come to the board about junk problems
and nothing has been done. He
feels that for enforcement beyond the regulations will need a Code Enforcement
Officer or what ever title such a person would have. He felt that the town needs a Junk Yard License
and a Junk Yard Ordinance.
George Davenport said the
resultant ordinance would have to go to the Town Meeting and the board has
plenty of time to study and create an ordinance that fits this town of 1100
people.
Chet Pratt said the Selectmen
will be voting on a Junk Yard License next week. He foresees applicants, for this license, will have to apply
to the Zoning Board of Adjustment for a Special Exception and then to the
Planning Board for Site Plan Review, as the applicant would considered to be in
business.
Terry McMahon commented that
it sounded as if the subcommittee should be formed. He appointed George Preston as chairman of the subcommittee
with Dennis Marquis and George Davenport to assist him.
Dale Smith asked if one of
the ladies from the State should be called and asked to come to the board to
explain the state program?
Terry McMahon cautioned the
subcommittee that their meetings would have to be posted 10 days in
advance.
George Preston asked if he
had to notice a meeting of the Board with its attorney? Answer: No.
Dale Smith asked if the board
could see the draft Junk Yard License and share it with the ZBA and
Conservation Commission before it is adopted.
John Halter provided a copy
of the draft to be copied and sent to the boards.
Terry McMahon then opened the
discussion to the public for comments.
Harry Power said the less
stringent regulation would take precedence. Noting that the State Regulation might be stricter than an
ordinance adopted by the Town and that the stricter ordinance would be
enforceable.
He also said the State
regulates motor vehicle junkyards only and encourages them. He relayed that Peterborough found
cleaning up a junkyard situation to be very costly ($200,000.00 or so).
Amy Rokoszak asked if the
State of NH has regulations to control unregistered vehicles.
George Davenport said yes
– he believes the regulation limits them to 2 vehicles.
Amy Rokoszak asked it that
included tractor-trailers – just the trailers? She asked who takes up the enforcement of those regulations.
Chet Pratt said that the
state does the enforcement and that they had recently tightened up the
regulations to including road worthy and inspected to the former rule that the
vehicles be registered.
Gordon Garnett asked if the
Selectmen adopted the license would any applicant be considered to be running a
business?
Louis GrandPreÕ said the
first step would be to go to the ZBA for a Special Exception if that board
considered the area as appropriate for a junkyard.
Gordon Garnett asked if he
applied for a license would he be treated as a business?
George Preston said that is
one approach.
Chet Pratt said yes, a person
running a junkyard has a business in his opinion.
Terry McMahon said that was a
question for the list George Preston was creating to present to the attorney.
Beverly Gay asked who the
enforcing body would be?
Terry McMahon said that would
be written into the ordinance,
Beverly Gay commented that
nothing is enforced now.
George Preston said that if a
problem is made known to the appropriate body, enforcement should follow.
John Halter asked –
suppose the Town needs an ordinance and it is presented to the Town Meeting
only to be voted down – what would the Town do then?
Harry Power asked if an
ordinance is mandated or recommended by the State?
Terry McMahon said it is not
mandated but the Town has been put on notice that it has a liability if it does
nothing.
Dale Smith said he has served
on the board for 4 years and many committees have been asked what the character
of the Town is. None of the
committees have been able to come up with a definition of that character. He wondered if the town was looking to
get rid of junky yards (not aesthetically pleasing) or junkyards - what are we
going after?
Amy Rokoszak asked when it
became junky yards that were being addressed?
Terry McMahon said the board
would like to hear from the townspeople – what does the ordinance need to
do – go after junky yards or junkyards or both.
Christine Parsons indicated that she is new in town and
appreciated the opportunity to speak.
She is concerned about environmental issues. She understands that the State has regulations but no
enforcement. She said there is a
huge difference between junkyards and junky yards and is concerned about the
hazard from expanding junkyard locations.
She feels that they are two separate issues and any one that contributes
a health concern or hazard needs to be cleaned up.
Terry McMahon said an
ordinance cannot be directed to a specific location but must be broadly
addressed to encompass any location within the town.
Christine Parsons said the
town needs a compliance officer and without such a position, enacting an
ordinance would be a waste of time.
Taryn Sarcione suggested the
board address health issues. If an
ordinance is adopted, consider any health or environmental hazard issue.
Beverly Gay said according to
the State, the Selectmen are the enforcement body for the townÕs board of
health. She wondered if they would
enforce such an ordinance?
Harry Power asked what good
is a compliance officer if he serves at the digression of the Select
Board. He thought the compliance
officer should have free reign.
Terry McMahon closed the
public input portion of the meeting.
Subdivision applications:
None
Site Plan Review: None
Other business: The secretary
pointed out that the November meeting will have to be held on the 13th
(2nd Tuesday) as the 1st Tuesday is election day.
SecretaryÕs hours to date are
22.25.
Adjourned: Terry McMahon
moved and Louis GrandPreÕ seconded to adjourn at 8:37 PM, the board approved.
Respectfully submitted,
Patricia E Putnam, Secretary